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in the intersection of art and sciences creating creative creativity and technology. beauty and engineering. that's what steve jobs did and that's added value. that came from really caring, not just about profit, but what am i going to add to the flow of history that is really neat and really cool. >> cenk: he talked in those terms of adding to the flow of history? >> absolutely. he was deeply in his--in his whole mindset was now not how do i make the most money but how do i put things back in the flow of history considering all the cool things that have been put in the flow of history that benefited me. >> gavin: do you think the lawsuit and the settlement and the jury verdict against samsung helps or hurts apple in terms of innovation. >> i don't know, but i will say innovation is important to protect it. i argue with that my daughter, get over it dad. it all should be free. no when a kid comes in to apple computer as this kid did many, many years ago and applies for a job and chose in the swipe and that little dock and how you put them in, and that becomes a really cool invention and steve hir
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